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Bunul, Frumosul si Uratul

Avioane - de la biplane la supersonice, civile sau militare, elicoptere si orice alta "zburatoare".

Bunul, Frumosul si Uratul

Postby Calin Ungureanu » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:52 pm

Cum mi se luase de figurine tot chinuindu-ma sa nimeresc luminile la un vestmant negru, mi-am zis sadau drumul la un build in grup cu subiecte japoneze.
Titlul e o parafraza care mi-a venit tot uitandu-ma la poze cu avioanele pe care incerc sa le machetez.
Bunul este Kyushu J7W Shinden care la inceput a fost respins de Marina Imperiala ca proiect, generalii batrani si cu autoritate spunand intr-un stil tipic "daymio": "Ce nevoie avem de un cocor care zboara cu picioarele inainte ?" Pana la urma s-a dovedit bun, desi nu a mai apucat sa probeze pe deplin calitatile sale. Kit Hasegawa

Frumosul este Mitsubishi Ki 83. Este un vanator greu bimotor si biloc, radistul observator avandu-si locul undeva in fuselajul central, inconjurat de ferestruici. Kitul, un MPM mai vechi imi da cea mai multa bataie de cap si cine a mai lucrat MPM-uri vechi la 1/72 stie de ce. Piese groase, nepotriviri, prescurtari ilogice.... Da' ce avion o sa iasa !!! Unul dintre cele mai curate aerodinamic pe care le stiu.

Si ultimul, "uratul", in persoana lui Kugisho R2Y Keiun (frumosul nor - ce ironie), despre care unii stiu ca ar fi fabricat de Yokosuka. Oricum nu a ajuns in productie asa ca....
Probabil ca japonezii au dorit sa-l motorizeze cu doua turboreactoarede tipul Shikawajima Ne330 de 1,320 cai, pe aripi. Asta ar putea fi o scuza pentru faptul ca arata de parca ar fi desenat de un copil cretin.

La o inspectie sumara (sub 2 ore), am constatat ca cel mai bine se inchide Hasegawa. As fi inclinat pentru Fine Molds, dar iata ca de data asta n-a fost cazul. Oricum spatiile se umplu cu chit si nu cu dolari sau yeni, asa ca pretul nu spune intotdeauna multe.
Cele mai multe piese de inventat - Ki 83 MPM.
Cel mai mare si mai fantastic cockpit - Keiun
Cel mai invers cockpit - Ki 83 MPM
Cel mai sinistru tren de aterizare - Shinden (Hase)

Lucrarea este destul de avansata, dar de data asta am facut suficiente poze ca sa para ca fac un w.i.p.
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Re: Bunul, Frumosul si Uratul

Postby Calin Ungureanu » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:53 pm

Ca sa vedeti la ce ma refer, o sa pun niste lik(g)uri.
Keiun
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/p ... eiun-i.htm
Ki 83 (frumosul)
http://modelingmadness.com/scotts/axis/j/ki83.htm
Kiushu Shinden
http://modelingmadness.com/scotts/axis/ ... review.htm

la al meu difera doar rama incercuita acolo cu rosu, fiind cel cu elice cu 6 pale.
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Re: Bunul, Frumosul si Uratul

Postby Calin Ungureanu » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:58 pm

Am inceput ca oricine cu interioarele.
Daca cele doua firme japoneze ofera niste interioare cat de cat populate, MPM nu si-a dat deloc interesul. Avand si dezavantajul unei sectiuni mici, la care se adauga peretii de plastic ai fuselajului, foarte grosi, am ajuns la concluzia ca va trebui sa fac la Ki83 un cockpit la 1/78.
Avand in vedre scara machetelor si faptul ca prin cupolele pe care le voiu lasa inchise, nu se va distinge prea bine ce-i acolo, nu m-am omorat cu superdetalierea. La Keiun si Shinden am pus centuri de siguranta din banda adeziva de hartie pe care am vopsit-o frumos si am incercat sa vibrez din culoare diversele aparate si indicatoare.



La Keiun e ciudat cum ine scaunul ala aproape de peretele din stanga, dar cum ii stiu pe japonezi ca le place inconfortul si inghesuiala....Treaca de la mine. Nu e nici o maneta de gaze !! O fi fost electronic :blink:
Geamurile s-au potrivit foarte bine in fuselaj la asta.









La Ki 83 m-am luat dupa MPM si am pus consolele din cockpitul principal, fix invers. La momentul asta m-am enervat prma data si-am zis. -Ba, esti bou. Strangi ca nebunu' tot felul de carti si documentatie fotografica si cand e sa le folosesti....
Cand am vazut de fapt cum arata cockpitul la Ki83, m-am hotarat sa imi fac eu altul. Scratch ca nu face nimeni rasini pentru genul asta de avioane obscure (mai ales japoneze).
A iesit ce vedeti mai jos si a fost facut dupa cum urmeaza:
Nou stanga si vechi (MPM) drepata.





De mai dedemult, aveam eu copiate (cu marsavie) niste podele cu tot cu console de Corsair de la Italeri. Tot de atunci niste scaune de Ju87 Stuka (tot italeri). Cum americanul era lat rau si consolele erau pe dos fata de asta (aia cu panta in stanga), a trebuit sa fac ceva chirurgie. Taiat console si mutat mai langa scaun; taiat portiunile din fata si schimbat intre ele; pilit in vreo 5 randuri ca tot nu incapea; sters centuri de pe scaun si inlocuit cu d-ale mele de scoci.
Pana la urma, dupa cateva zile de nervi si degete taiate, a mers.





Am indesat si un far in bot si am spart fuselajul incercand sa potrivesc cat mai fest geamurile laterale de la postul din spate.
Bordul l-am facut din hartie aplicata pe plastic, cu geamuri de future si putina culoare printre ceasuri.
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Re: Bunul, Frumosul si Uratul

Postby Bill » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:59 pm

Traiasca imparatul si soarele de la rasarit !
Voi urmari acest threesome cu exoticele gheise.
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Re: Bunul, Frumosul si Uratul

Postby Calin Ungureanu » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:01 pm

Chiar ma gandeam, cui ii va folosi topicul asta ?
Stiti voi pe cineva care in timpul vietii actuale se va apuca de unul din modelele de mai sus.
Pe de-o parte e trist, pe de alta e misto ca la anu' cand voiu veni la expozitie o sa vedeti si altceva decat vesnicele Spitfire, P 51 si Me 109 (nu, n-am omis FW 190. Cu asta e alta problema....nu ne atingem de lucruri sfinte)

In etapa urmatoare mi-am propus sa ma ocup rapid de partile vitrate de la Ki83.
Cosmar. Peretii fiind mult prea grosi si de acum crapati si chituiti, am optat pentru varianta cu sticla lichida (kristal clear).
Am facut mai intai niste incercari cu aracet curat. Datorita volumului mare (gros) ce trebuia pus, am aplicat in mai multe straturi si tot s-a supt spre interior cu toate artificiile de pozitionare.
Aici se vede cum am pus peste



ulterior, in asteptarea unui flacon de kristal clear adevarat ce urmeaza sa soseasca din USA, am folosit o chestie italieneasca - "SYNTHAGLASS"

Nu-i cu mult mai altfel. Poate ceva mai transparenta dar aceleasi probleme in cazul de fata cu asezarea in rama.



Am scos-o si iar am pus-o (solutia) de vreo 5 ori.
Pana la urma a trebuit sa slefuiesc chestia aia (cam elastica) la ud si apoi sa o lustruiesc cu o chestie d-aia cu 4 fete (de calitate de la Body-shop)
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Re: Bunul, Frumosul si Uratul

Postby Calin Ungureanu » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:02 pm

Am inchis fuselajele la Keiun si Shinden, nu inainte de a umple locurile libere cu plumbi pe langa care am turnat aracet (white-glue) ca sa nu se balangane in zbor ;).
Amandoua machetele sunt astfel inginerite incat mai poti adauga greutati dupa ce le inchizi.
Din pacate, lucrand noaptea si plecand dimineata devreme, pozele au fost facute in conditii proaste si sunt de nefolosit. Pot sa va povestesc ca erau niste graunte de plumb inghesuite in niste boturi de avioane.
Asa cum va spuneam si la inceput, Keiunul a necesitat ceva chit atat pe burta cat si pe cocoasa.



La potrivirea fuselajului cu aripile la Keiun, am bagat de seama ca orice as face, exceptand imprimarea unui diedru nefiresc aripilor, aceste subansamble nu se potrivesc.
M-am decis pentru aplicarea de plastic evergreen de 0,2mm pe portiunea de contact de pe fuselaj.
Fac asta pentru a evita chituirea si slefuirea in zona aia unde am niste capace cu turnicheti pe margini.
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Re: Bunul, Frumosul si Uratul

Postby Hartman » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:03 pm

Asta da productie,voi urmari de la peluza.
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Re: Bunul, Frumosul si Uratul

Postby Calin Ungureanu » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:05 pm

La Ki83 am incercat sa pun niste grinzi de plastic ca sa sustina aripile dar mi-a fost prea greu sa potrivesc gaurile de pe aripi cu cele de pe fuselaj, asa ca am renuntat. Voi cum faceti chestia asta ?



In faza urmatoare a constructiei am slefuit chituirile, in cazul Keiunului asta insemnand folosirea unei dalti pentru linogravura, convexa pentru a scoate surplusul de plastic de la imbinarea aripii cu fuselajul.



Am decupat plasticul de la capetele de plan pe care erau figurate luminile de pozitie ca sa le inlocuiesc cu parti transparente. Ceea ce am si facut. Partile transparente au fost apoi pilite progresiv si slefuite pana au ajuns bec.



La fel am procedat si la lumina de pozitie de la deriva Keiunului.
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Re: Bunul, Frumosul si Uratul

Postby Calin Ungureanu » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:06 pm

Inainte sa trec mai departe, uitati-va ce forma frumoasa are fuselajul de Ki83.
Nu am putut sa nu ma gandesc la un alt mod de relaxare pe care-l practic cand imi permite vremea si timpul.


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Re: Bunul, Frumosul si Uratul

Postby Marhaba » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:06 pm

Ha!
Rascolesti in mine senzatii cam de mult ascunse. Daca-i mai faci si-un camuflaj din aerograf, palinca, barca si locul le dau eu.

PS Ma gindesc cam cit costa kitul si-mi dau seama ca sunt voblere mai scumpe ?!?
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